Loss of Students/Reinstating Football and City Councilman Paul Gray (WSU student) predetermined position

by Fred Marrs 2. April 2006 18:55

 
 TO:  WSU STUDENTS

          RE: Loss of Students / Reinstating Football

    Mayor Mayans desires to solve our festering 20 year old loss
of student problem.  His funding plan is a stand alone plan,
independent of all other sports programs, and does not involve any
costs to students.  The plan is a win win for students – football,
homecoming, marching bands, etc., with no costs to students.
    Your fellow student and City Councilman, District IV, Paul
Gray, in the exercise of a lack of political leadership, refuses to
discuss the issue with his constituents upon the grounds that he
doesn't want to become involved in a controversial issue, as he is
again standing for the coming City Council election.  The saying
goes that if you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the
kitchen.  Why would a man run for a political leadership position,
and then refuse to discuss substantive issues with his constituents
upon the rationale that he contends it would be detrimental to his
chances of reelection?
    It appears Councilman Paul Gray has determined to support the
rationally indefensible and we believe predetermined position of
president Beggs (the antithesis of "Thinkers, Doers, Movers &
Shockers"), rely upon the advice of his minter, WSU political
science professor Ken Ciboski, and is more concerned with president
Beggs' preemptive surreptitious political intrigue campaign of
opposition, prior to any discussion with Mayor Mayans; than to take
the opportunity to substantially and rationally discuss and
determine the issues with his constituents.
    With the opportunity to represent other WSU students and his
constituents to their benefit, Gray assiduously avoids discussion
of the substance of the issue, in order to in ingratiating fashion,
support the unmeritorious predetermined position of president
Beggs, who we believe was committed not to reinstate football when
he was hired by the then KU controlled Board of Regents in 1998,
some year prior to our group getting passed through the legislature
a law to legally de-pack the then KU monopolistic controlled B.O.R.
    We would ask that you request the WSU student government body
to invite Mayor Mayans and/or the Shocker Black & Golds to speak to
the issues, prior to any vote on the use of the additional increase
and uncommitted contingency funds of the up coming Mil-levy budget.
    In appreciation of your consideration and involvement with
these issues that affect your university, we are

                                  Respectfully submitted,
                                  Alumni Shocker Black & Golds
                                  By:
                                       Fred Marrs

p.s. Coming soon: visit AlumniShockerBlack&Golds.com for detailed
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Second response to NCAA study

by Fred Marrs 26. August 2004 18:57

Date: 26 Aug.'04
                                

 

 

Dr. Donald L. Beggs, President
WICHITA STATE UNIVERSITY
1845 Fairmount
Wichita, Ks 67260-0001

             RE: The Empirical Effects of Collegiate
                   Athletics: An Interim Report
                       Additional Comments

Dear President Beggs,

     This will serve to provide supplemental comments to my letter
review of the captioned matter of 16 Aug. '04:

         I.  General Comments RE Background Of the Report

     It seems appropriate when reviewing any report, to question
the credibility of the authors and the motives for the studies and
report in the first instance.
     On Sunday 8 Aug., coming back from a family reunion in western
Kansas, I stopped at Chili's for dinner and in the process of
eating read an article about the NCAA in a Friday 6 Aug. USA Today
paper.  Since it was Chili's paper, I don't have a copy to cite,
but the article expressed the NCAA's desire and attempt to persuade
schools from trying to upgrade to Div. I-A football.  Accordingly,
it occurred to me when I later started reading the captioned
report, that the NCAA may have commissioned the report attempting
to obtain a purportedly "independent" report making findings to
support the NCAA's attempt to dissuade Div. I-AA schools from
trying to upgrade to Div. I-A.  It isn't necessarily so, but it is
a consideration.  And, it does say something about where the NCAA
thinks its interest lies in Div. I-A football.
     Next I would point out that if you really wanted an
"independent" analysis and report, why would you hire two of the
three folks doing the studies and writing the report, who are
apparently related: Jonathan M. Orszag and Peter R. Orszag?  Are
the Orszags retained, either directly by the NCAA or indirectly
through Robert Litan, not only because of their ability, but also
because they are not likely to arrive at different analysis or
opinions, and with at least 2 of the 3 votes, can control the
report findings.  Again, it isn't necessarily so, but it is a
consideration.
     Then there is the stated fact that both Peter Orszag and
Robert Litan are Senior Fellows in Economic Studies at the
Brookings Institution.  The Brookings Institute is a notorious
petrified mind liberal agenda think tank.  For me, as a
conservative, that fact alone is sufficient to raise a red flag to
potentially question the deductive thought processes and
willingness to intellectually honestly present the data and
conclusions they draw from the data.
     There is also the stated fact that both Orszags served in
government, Jonathan as the Assistant to the Secretary of Commerce
and Director of the Office of Policy and Strategic Planning, and
Peter served as Special Assistant to the President for Economic
Policy at the White House.  These positions had to be under the
Clinton administration, as Bush would not use liberals associated
with the Brookings Institute.  This is simply more evidence of,
acknowledgment of, and the use of, folks that constitute a state of
the art world class commitment to liberalism, and the liberal
agenda.
     Then there is the admission contained on page 1, that the NCAA
guided the study, thus:

          "The authors also thank ...; William Bowen, Robert Cumby,
          William Gale, Michael Kremer, Andrew Zimbalist, and the
          NCAA staff for helpful conversations and suggestions, and
          Daniel Falks for his assistance with the survey and with
          the NCAA/EADA data."

     Additionally, the authors thank three "independent"
economists, none of which are identified.  Why not?  Are they all
also liberal think tank clones.
     I am assuming that the NCAA became aware of Robert Litan, who
is stated to be Vice President for Research and Policy at the
Kauffman Foundation in Kansas City, when the NCAA offices were
located in Shawnee Mission, Kansas.  And, since both Litan and
Peter Orszag are senior fellows at the Brookings Institute, I am
assuming the probability is that the NCAA contacted Litan, and
Litan brought the Orszags into the study contract.  These folks
appear to be associated liberal network clones, hardly folks who
approach a subject matter with an open precision linearly deductive
thought prospective, unbiased by any liberal ability to justify any
preconceived prospective.  Generally, liberals exhibit an ability
to not be much bothered by rational deductive thinking or existing
facts, if they conflict with their perception of where it is they
wish their conclusions to end up.
     Then there is the stated fact that of the major data bases
used, the NCAA data base, and, says the report, p.2:

          "[s]tatistical analysis of a new, comprehensive
          database complied from school-specific information
          collected as part of the Equity in Athletics Disclosure
          Act (EADA) merged with data from other sources
          (such as the Integrated Post-Secondary Education Data
          System managed by the Department of Education);..."
          (Emphasis added).

Any data managed by the Department of Education causes me some
concern, given my experience of calling the Department of Education
about Title IX, and being referred to their Office of Civil Rights.
I had reviewed the statute and had decided to call to request some
data and information relative to the statute.  The first lady I
talked to was obviously young and I felt probably not able to
understand what I was talking about, so I shortly ask her if she
had a supervisor I could talk to.  She said she would ring me in to
the Director of the Office of Civil Rights.  When I talked to that
lady, I shortly determined she did not have the ability to even
consider my request.  So, in the middle of trying to explain my
request to her, I stopped and asked her if she had an attorney in
her office who might better understand my request.  She replied:

          "No, we don't got no attorney here."

I then carefully had her write down the title of the report I was
interested in, and had her repeat it to me.  She said she would
shortly send me the report, but I never received anything.
Moreover, because I was convinced of the marginal competence of the
Director of the Office, to say it kindly, I decided it was useless
to attempt to follow up with any letter or additional call, and
just forgot about it.  These folks with jurisdiction over Title IX
in the Government, are fundamentally incompetent in my opinion.
Somewhere, in my prior correspondence to President Hughes, Fred
Sudermann, the football committee, etc, I have stated this
information of my experience with the Department of Education
Office of Civil Rights, but I have presently been unable to find it
on the computer.  But the point is, with that background, it is
hard for me to place much confidence in any data managed by the
Office of Civil Rights of the Department of Education. 

     With the above caveats in mind, I offer the following general
comments concerning the ten "Hypothesis" and Sections I-V. However,
none of the ten Hypothesis are relevant to the issue of the loss of
football causing the loss of students.

                         I. Hypothesis #1

     The first four bullet points and the conclusion all provide
statements that constitute supporting rationale for the thought
process that the evidence of spending money on athletics at today's
level is a small 3 to 3.5 percent of total higher education
spending, and clearly not disproportionate or unjustified on the
basis of the share of overall academic spending.  I would add, that
the beneficial effects of sports are synergistic, and accrue to the
benefit of academics.

                        II. Hypothesis #2

     Please note that the inequality being discussed, is inequality
between schools, not inequality between men and women's athletics.
The conclusion might just as well say that: better programs did
better, earned more money, and accordingly had more money to spend,
and so invested their additional money to continue to grow their
programs.

                        III. Hypothesis #3

      The statements and conclusion basically report the effects of
competition.  The very good successful programs continue to be
successful precisely because they understand what it takes to
manage a successful program, and continue to manage and optimize
their chances for success.  Schools that have less consistency
exhibit some mobility.  When we had about a $1.0 million athletic
debt, we did not have substantive moral leadership, and the
leadership, making no serious effort whatsoever, announced we could
not raise one million dollars.  But when we had substantive honest
leadership, we raised $3.2 million for the football stadium, about
$6 million for phase IV of the baseball stadium, and $26 million
for the round house project.  Is there any surprise there can be
mobility in expenditure, revenue, and winning percentages in
football and basketball.

                        IV. Hypothesis #4

     Says the report:
    
          "Our statistical analysis suggest that between 1993
          and 2001, an increase in operating expenditures of $1
          on football or men's basketball in Division I-A was
          associated with approximately $1 in additional operating
          revenue, on average.  The implication is that spending
          an extra $1 was not associated with any increase or
          decrease in net revenue, on average, from these sports."
          (Emphasis in text and not supplied).

     This statement says more to me about the attitude of the
report writers and the NCAA desire not to encourage Div. I-AA folks
to strive for Div. I-A, than it does about the substance of the
statement.  The NCAA is satisfied with the status quo in Div. I-A
and the money they make from the big schools with quality programs.
There is no doubt that the Ohio State folks and other major
football powers, who strive for big bowl $12,000,000 payoffs,
ignore the conclusions of the report writers, and continue to
invest more money into their sports programs.  In fact, the
reasonable discernment from the statistical statement, is not the
implication of the writers, presented as if were a negative, but
rather the implication is positive and a good thing.  If you invest
an extra $1 in your program, you get the $1 back in extra revenue,
and you are building your base of support in the process.  The
business community understands the principle of investing in your
business, product, and advertising, and use it regularly.  In this
case, investing in the product and base is not even a loss leader.
You at least break even while expanding the program and your
support base.  The writers know this and that is exactly why when
they put the matter in a negative fashion, their conscience
requires them to emphasis the word "net". 
     Moreover, universities are in a unique position in the
business world, because there are folks who will give them money if
they show proper leadership and support for athletic programs.
And, there are folks who wouldn't give a dime for academic
programs, other than through their state taxes, who, because they
are happy with support for athletic programs, will also contribute
to academic programs.  This of course was the K-State experience,
candidly proudly admitted by a K-State professor in a national
article I have previously quoted. 
     In the last sentence of paragraph 2 of their findings, the
writers sheepishly admit, without further comment:

          "It is possible that the effects of operating spending
          differ from the effects of capital spending"

Absolutely so, and even more beneficial.  See Koch, Geist, Devlon,
etc. contributions for the project on the roundhouse.

                         V. Hypothesis #5

     Again, this Hypothesis is limited to "operating expenditures",
and does not consider the effects of capital expenditures.  If we
had not solved the Cessna stadium problem for the benefit of the
community as well as the university, by raising $3.2 million and
saving the 30,000 seat stadium, we would have not created the good
will in the community that primed the pump for phase 4 of the
baseball stadium -- perhaps also not the softball stadium -- which
ultimately resulted in $26 million in gifts for Charles Koch arena.
And, accomplishing the Cessna stadium result against the initial
contra desires of president Hughes, was a major war, fought not
only inter se the community, and the then KU monopolistic
controlled Board of Regents, but even through the legislature.  How
much more easily should it be to now accomplish a Div. I-A football
program, with all parties working together, and working from a base
of good will that presently exists from the results that have come
to fruition.
     Please note the qualifying language of the findings, as
limited to "medium-term".  Apparently, the relationship exists, but
you have to wait some for the results.  Nor is medium-term defined,
except in the minds of the writers.  But since we know that their
study was from between 1993 and 2001 data, a period of 8 years,
then medium term has to be less than 8 years, and I suspect the
relationship is exhibited within the 8 year period.
     Moreover, what you spend the money on greatly effects whether
or not additional revenue is produced.  Expending dollars to hire
a new coach like Bill Snyder for example, had a major effect upon
revenue, winning percentages, additional expenditures on capital
improvement of the capacity of wildcat stadium -- resulting in
additional revenues, alumni contributions to athletics, and
additionally to academics.  All these issues are synergistic, and
these studies can not be legitimately isolated, except by ignoring
reality and applying mental gymnastics, which leads to
fundamentally flawed analysis and conclusions.
     In this regard, as to bullet point two, they do "economic
exercises" and can't find an equation (statistical) relationship --
only because of their limiting assumptions, and their myopic
inability to consider reality that the great unwashed common man on
the street would find to be just plain common sense -- and so they
negatively assume no relationship exists.  And I suspect they do so
in order to support the NCAA desire to discourage Div. I-AA
investment in football and basketball attempting to upgrade their
programs to Div. I-A.  Of course, the NCAA knows that any such
finding will be ignored and have no effect upon the major football
programs in Div. I-A.  The great unwashed would simply look at all
the major programs and find that the one thing they all had in
common was that they invested in their programs and facilities.
They wouldn't be able to write an equation and pseudo
intellectually make mental gymnastic paper talk, but they would
know the relationship exists, just like they know that they can
observe that the sun comes up every day, and so they believe it is
justified to conclude that it will come up tomorrow, even though
they can not write any equation to prove it.  And, just because
they don't know how to write any such equation, doesn't mean that
they can be convinced the sun won't come up tomorrow.  How does the
K-State experience fit the bullet point 2 statement?  The answer is
that it doesn't.

                        VI. Hypothesis #6

     The bottom line retort to bullet point 1, is that it probably
depends upon what the expenditures are for, and is probably
independent of the subset categories they chose.  Bullet point 2
just says that it is possible to do either.  The question is: what
policies and expenditures resulted in increased revenue for the two
schools, and what policies and expenditures resulted in loss by one
school.  And, their conclusion is that the Hypothesis isn't proven.
In short, "We don't know".

                        VII. Hypothesis #7

     One could probably surmise they had $1.21 worth of football
income, $1.14 worth of basketball income, and spent $1 on football,
$1 on basketball, and .35 cents on women, just to placate the
politically correct crowd on campus and the exhibited
intelligentsia of the Department of Education, Office of Civil
Rights, Title IX folks in Washington.  But Title IX legally doesn't
say what those brilliant Title IX folks in Washington -- who tell
you over the phone: "No, we don't got no attorney here" -- say it
legally says.  But then, education folks are immediately convinced
and will not challenge the politically correct folks and any such
high sounding words like "equity".  "[t]o ensure equity".  How is
it do you define "equity".  To me it seems equitable, if women
spend the money they make for their programs.  But that is way too
simple, as women programs could not exist at the level they do on
their own merit, but have to leach for their existence on the men's
sport programs to bring money into the athletic department.  Nor
does Title IX say that dollar for dollar has to be spent for
women's programs, as is spent for men's programs.  It is however
rational to conclude, from the statistical analysis presented in
bullet point 1, coupled with Hypothesis #4, that if you spend $1 on
football, $1.21 in football revenue will be obtained, of which $1
is spent on football and .21 cents is spent on women's programs.
Since women don't seem to be generally much interested in women's
sports, there are a few exceptions for basketball that I can think
of like SMS, Tennessee, Connecticut, and don't attend and support
the programs -- even though they control something like 80 percent
of the private money in the U.S. -- women ought to be happy with
the expenditure of a dollar on football, as it statistically
results in .21 cents being spent on women's sports.
     Finally with respect to bullet point 1, I am not familiar with
the definition of "econometric".  I think making up words or a
phrase is just fine, and a fun thing to do.  I do it my self when
I can generate a descriptive thought process that drives home a
point.  For example, many years ago I was reading a liberal article
that was so entirely false and devoid of rational thought
processes, that I became frustrated, quit reading, and started to
talk to myself trying to find words sufficient to properly describe
the lack of substance of the exhibited thought processes; when
suddenly my search engine spit out the phrase "mental
masturbation".  I had never heard this phrase before, but I
immediately adopted it as descriptive, and if appropriately
applied, persuasive in making the point.  A number of years later
I heard the Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka (sp?) use the phrase on
the air in a television interview.  If I was the inventor, it was
at least persuasive enough to travel to Chicago in some fashion.
So, I don't object to the invention of words or phrases, but since
I am not an economist -- neither do I suspect, are the NCAA
personal for whom the report was written -- and the word is not
self evident on its face, it would have been nice if the writers
would have troubled themselves to define exactly what it is they
meant by "econometric specification", for us great unwashed common
folks who are not economist.
     However, the statement of bullet point 2, is supportive of
additional spending on football, as associated with increased
spending on women's sports.  Those studies conclusions are
supportive of the implication that it could only happen if $1 spent
on football resulted in $1.21 in additional football revenue, .21
cents of which was then spent on women's sports.  Since including
basketball, raises the number to .35 cents, apparently a $1 spent
on basketball only results in $1.14 cents additional basketball
revenue, and .14 cents additional being spent on women's sports. 
     But since it would not be politically correct to conclude that
women sports are benefitted with additional spending, by additional
spending on men's football or basketball, the writers hide behind
their nebulous subjective word "robust", and say the Hypothesis is
not proven, given the lack of "robustness".  But $2.35 cents back
on $2.00 invested, or 17.5 percent profit in one year, seems robust
to me.  The truth is at WSU, and most other schools, with some
exceptions for a few specific women's basketball programs; minor
sports -- I don't consider Baseball a minor sport -- have always
lived off of income from football or basketball.

                       VIII. Hypothesis #8

     By using the word "measurable", they conclude if they can't or
don't want to measure it, it doesn't exist.  But the K-State
professor was quoted in a national article as saying football
success at K-State had directly led to additional contributions to
academics. 
     It is to be noted that bullet point 1 says nothing about the
quantity of applicants.  It only finds no relationship "either
positive or negative" re incoming SAT scores or the percentage of
applicants accepted.  Further, higher SAT students probably pick
schools more for academic reasons, all other bases being relatively
equal.  But if you don't have football, even some of these folks
may opt for a football school that is also academic.  I had sports
interests long before I had developed academic interests, but I
chose WSU because it had the third best rated Aeronautical
Engineering School in the country at the time, behind only MIT and
Cal. Tech., and further it had the advantage of being able to stay
at home, and therefore more affordable for my folks.  While at WSU
I never had any professor for my undergraduate degree or my masters
degree in engineering courses, that did not hold a doctors degree.
Further, I had two graduate courses in engineering that I took for
undergraduate degree credit.  And, subsequently, in preparation of
expert witness testimony, I learned from Dr. Tetleman of UCLA, that
three courses he took for his doctors degree, elasticity, plates
and shells, and elastic stability, were all doctorate level
courses, which courses I took for my masters degree.  I later
confirmed with Dr. Craig, that all three of the courses I had were
doctorate courses, but were taught at WSU at the masters level,
because we didn't have a doctorate in engineering at the time, and
they were the courses they were interested in teaching. So, even
though I chose WSU only for academic reasons that I knew about, if
my knowledge of the academics between schools had suggested they
were relatively equal, if WSU was then not seen as a traditional
university with traditional football, and given my athletic
interests, I might have chosen KU or K-State as in-state schools,
or some other out-of-state school with a quality aeronautical
engineering program, that also had traditional football.  In truth,
the public perception of the quality of the education received at
an institution, is affected by the public perception of the quality
of the school's athletic programs, thereby affecting applications.
Notre Dame would still be a small expensive Jesuit school if it
wasn't for its football history.  But we lose students from a
population base of 400,000, who go to K-State and KU although it
costs their parents more money, because the parents can not
successfully argue against allowing their children a traditional
college experience, including going to a university with a football
team and a traditional marching band and homecoming etc., even
though it would be cheaper and they would prefer it, if they have
the money to support going away to college.
    
                        IX. Hypothesis #9

     When these writers use the term "robust", I'm convinced it
means they don't want to believe it or plead the case, probably
because they know the NCAA would consider it an inducement for Div.
I-AA school trying to upgrade to Div. I-A, for which it has been
publicly stated the NCAA wishes to dissuade; but it is measurable
and does exist.  It is only by degree, that they contend the
Hypothesis is not proven.  For example, our own local K-State
example, as stated by K-State interviews of president Jon Wefald
and a K-State professor in a national magazine, affirmatively prove
Hypothesis #9, and disproves bullet point 1.

                        X. Hypothesis #10

     This Hypothesis is again unrelated to our postured question
and is concluded as not proven.  But bullet point 4 states:

          "It is important to emphasize that the existence of an
          'arms race' may be concentrated in capital expenditures,
          which are not adequately recorded in the NCAA/EADA data,
          rather than in operating expenditures." (Emphasis added).

And, capital expenditures effect recruiting, therefore wining
percentages, attendance, income, and ultimately many other factors
that are synergistic and that additionally result in and produce
more of the same.  The report writers know that capital
expenditures are extremely important and affect what they are
studying, but they don't have the data for capital expenditures,
and about all they can do is say our Hypotheses are not proven as
we don't have all the data we need.

                          XI. Section I
                       Empirical Literature

     Note: At this point in the analysis I started to accomplish
the nine paragraph Section I analysis, when I got a automatic pop
up message on viruses that removed the document I was working on
from the screen.  I deleted the virus message and was put back into
the menu, from which I selected my document and called it back to
the screen.  I then accomplished a 9 paragraph analysis of Section
I, accomplishing about 6 or 7 pages in some 3 hours.  I then
determined to eat lunch prior to starting Section 2, saved the
document and exited wordperfect 10 to the shut down mode, when I
noticed the bottom start button bar still had another word perfect
10 bar opened with a document.  I could have continued to shut down
but I assumed the document still opened was the old document that
I did not want, so I deleted it, and then shut down to eat lunch.
When I returned I found that the document that was deleted was the
second document with some three hours of accomplished work, and
that I only had the original document available to start all over
with.  I then expended some 3 hours working with trying to retrieve
the other document from the recycle bin and from the start menu
button without success.  I have just finished working with my
computer expert who went through retrieval procedures and is
convinced I have overwritten the document and that it no longer
exists.  The only solution is that I can try to re-sculpture my
original analysis.  However, I already have brain damage just
thinking about trying to recreate the original analysis.  Maybe
tomorrow I will be able to get over the brain damage sufficiently
to apply myself to trying to recreate the analysis, but it will be
truncated from the original analysis I am sure.  Presently, I can't
even think about trying to recreate the analysis, its miller time.

                          XI. Section I
                       Empirical Literature

     Notwithstanding the statements of paragraph 1, they like the
data anyway because they have nothing else, and they can even
better project what they want.

     As to paragraph 2, they constrain their analysis to net
revenue.  The authors write the paragraph in a negative fashion,
although neutrally saying that the studies find that changes in
spending on football or men's basketball are not associated with
significant increases or decreases in financial net revenues.  But
folks in the business world spend money they consider to be a "loss
leader" expense, for advertising, price cuts, etc., in order to
attempt to expand the product base.  For these purposes, they would
be happy to get a $1 back for every $1 invested, because they would
be in the process breaking even, not losing money, and would at the
same time be expanding the product base of supporters.  With an
expanded base of support, there is simply more folks who can
potentially make gifts, buy the product, and make possible a more
profitable program in the long term.  Investing a dollar, and
getting a dollar back in revenue, is a good thing, not a bad thing,
and ought to be accomplished at every opportunity.
     Most importantly, if this process attracts more students to
the school, we have an advantage and opportunity most schools
nationwide do not have, and its called the tuition accountability
law.  We get to keep the tuition for one year.  And, the evidence
is we would have continued to grow in 1986 had not the KU Board of
Regents determined to kill WSU's football program and to relegate
WSU to a lesser status in the state system --  who's general
competition they didn't like in the first instance -- in a
irrational stated attempt to help K-State develop their football
program.  Further, the KU Board of Regents determined -- in order
to stop K-State's precipitous loss of students because of the
negative national publicity of their then football program, said by
the NCAA to be the worst program in the history of collegiate
football, one victory in ten years in the Big 8, and to maintain K-
State in the then Big 8 conference, which conference was publicly
considering whether or not to kick K-State out of the conference --
it was necessary in the process of hiring Jon Wefald to charge him
with emphasizing football, and to stop the precipitous loss of
students.  As a result we are some 8,000 students down from where
we could reasonably have expected to have been.  Totally, some
$34,000,000 worth of one years tuition, over the years it would
take us to gain the 8,000 students.  This money would clearly come
because we would then be seen as a traditional university, and the
windfall of the tuition accountability moneys we would be allowed
to keep, could be invested, at least in part, to endow the football
program.  In reason, this is an economic business opportunity we
should not allow to be ignored or to otherwise pass up.
     Moreover, the results of the $1 invested is probably like any
investment, a function of what it is you invest the money in.  If
you use the money to invest in capital improvements, the results
will shortly be seen in the ability to recruit better players,
which will translate into better winning percentages, a larger
support base, and more revenue.  The effects are synergistic, and
eventually cyclic and exponential.  And, quality capital
improvements and more money invested in coaches salaries, attract
better game coaches who have the ability, and who hire assistants
with the ability, to recruit better players, resulting in higher
winning percentages, etc.  None of these studies focus upon what
the money is invested in, probably because the data is not
available. 
     Nor do we need other studies to rely upon, when we have our
own direct experience.  When our leadership determined to "suspend
football" in a quid pro quo agreement with the KU Board of Regents
for three doctors degrees in engineering, we had about a $1 million
athletic debt, and president Armstrong -- I am told, called a big
cigar and ask him to pay the $1, and he declined -- so based upon
his strident effort to raise $1 million, Armstrong publicly
announced we could not pay off the debt and so he was "suspending"
football, and then in less than 30 days announced that the
university had sold all the football equipment, before the
community had time to respond and raise the money.  But when the KU
folks again tried to damage WSU and to assure that WSU would be
relegated to a lesser status in the state system, by trying to tear
down our football stadium, to preclude any future attempt to
reinstate football, this writer and Jim Meek went to the
legislature on overnight notice, argued against 6 KU folks arguing
to continue the language in the bill to tear down the WSU stadium,
before Gus Bogina's House Ways and Means committee, and were
successful in getting the language taken out of the bill.
Subsequently, president Hughes attempted to get the legislature to
put the language back into a bill, and this writer wrote an
analysis of Hughes' presentation to the legislature, and provided
it to the legislature.  Subsequently, Fred Sudermann advised this
writer that he could not win the issue and that the legislature was
telling him that the president should set up a committee of
community leaders and solve the issue in Wichita, not the
legislature.  Hughes then came around to saving the stadium, as the
KU Board of Regents backed off, and we then raised $3.2 million,
$2.2 of which came from the mil-levy, Cessna contributed either
$300,000 or $500,000, I don't remember for sure, and we renovated
Cessna stadium.  When we finally got moral leadership, we raised
$3.2 million and renovated Cessna stadium.  I suspect that
accomplishment led to Howard Wilkins Sr. contributing for the
women's softball stadium.  Then, Hughes finally agreed to allow
Gene Stephenson to attempt to raise about $6 million for phase IV
of the baseball project, of which he was able I believe to raise
about $3 million.  Enter then your involvement to fund the other $3
million, which has resulted in our present state of the art
collegiate baseball stadium.  And, we were able to accomplish the
round house project when Charles Koch stepped forward with $6
million dollars of seed money, saying:

          "I am now convinced WSU is headed in the right
          direction."

The clear implication was we were not headed in the right direction
when the KU Board of Regents was trying to tear down Cessna
stadium.  And Koch had all of our position papers, as well as 100
other community leaders.  Nor did we ask Koch or any other
community leader for a dime or for their influence, in attempting
to save Cessna stadium for the community and the university.  We
just supplied the community with the facts and knowledge of what
was going on, and let them make up their own minds whether they
agreed with our position or not.  Eventually, when Koch was
convinced that the new leadership at the university was meritorious
and morally headed in the right direction, he stepped forward with
$6 million and the leadership that resulted in other major
community leaders contributing to the fruition of the project. 
     Bob Geist and Tom Devlon then contributed $2.5 million each
and you were then able to complete the $26 million dollar
renovation of the roundhouse, resulting in Charles Koch arena, an
unprecedented contribution to the university and this community. 
     Accordingly, we know what can be accomplished with moral
leadership, and trying to do the right thing.  The Wichita
community responds.  When we did not have moral intellectually
honest leadership, we could not raise $1 million dollars, so said
Warren Armstrong.  But when we had moral leadership, we raised $3.2
million of mostly non private money; accomplished the softball
project; raised $6 million and accomplished the baseball project;
and then raised mostly $26 million dollars of private money and
accomplished the Charles Koch Arena project.  Clearly, we don't
need to look to nebulous outside studies of other folks, when we
have developed our own abilities to accomplish major projects to
the great benefit of the university, and have our own past
experience to rely upon and give us confidence with which to
proceed to solve our problem of our inability to attract and grow
a larger student body because we are not seen as a traditional
university, as we have no football program.  We are not like K-
State in 1986, with the worst football program in the history of
the NCAA, we are worse.  We have no football program, none, nada,
non compos mentis: resulting in no marching band; a reduced music
school that used to be recognized nationwide; lost students; the
inability to grow students; a non-traditional university image to
sell to prospective students; as well as less prestige with the now
depacked Board of Regents, resulting in our continuing inability to
obtain our fair share of the State education budget, as clearly
evident by the substantially lesser statistical per capita state
spending on WSU students vis-a-vis KU and K-State students. 
     And this is so with respect to KU, even if you do not consider
the KU medical school budget, which as I recall was $311,000,000
dollars in 1995 -- including the WSU medical school the KU Board of
Regents stole, excuse me, transferred, but that's another
injustice, and I need to concentrate on one at a time -- and half
of the KU total budget, which KU budget was then I believe from
memory of studies I have accomplished in about 1995, was about half
of the total state education budget.  For this $311,000,000/yr in
1995, KU graduated 54 doctors, of which 8 percent annually, or
about 4 doctors in 1995, stayed in Kansas.  Lets see, $311,000,000
divided by 4 ... well, you get the idea.  We could buy more doctors
than 4, for $311,000,000/yr.
     Nor is there any evidence that I am aware of, that the Board
of Regents is profoundly concerned with the lack of equity to WSU,
as measured by per capita state spending on WSU, KU and K-State.
And they have certainly professed no concern publicly for the
problem of loss of students at WSU that they themselves caused, by
the then KU monopolistic controlled Board of Regents, and the quid
pro quo agreement to "suspend" football at WSU.  The Board of
Regents was profoundly concerned with the status of K-State's
football team and the associated precipitous loss of students
because of that status and national image; but they care not a wit
that we have no football program at all, that their predecessors
insidiously, deceitfully, and with chicanery, killed WSU's football
program and caused WSU's loss of student problem.  Is the Board of
Regents interested in solving the WSU student loss problem?  From
public evidence, the answer is, not hardly!  They are more than
happy to see Wichita students go to KU and K-State.
Notwithstanding Sedgwick County pays more taxes to the state than
any other county, including Johnson County, Sedgwick County
taxpayers are not treated with equity re per capita state spending
on education, and further not only have to disproportionately fund
education at KU and K-State, but also have to send their children
to KU and K-State, at additional housing and living costs, in order
to afford them a traditional university educational experience, and
in order to obtain a more prestigious degree from a recognized
traditional university with a traditional football program.
     The second to last sentence of paragraph 2, states:

          "Zimbalist (1999), relying on aggregate data published
          by the NCAA, notes, 'Since it is only the top IA
          schools that generate significant positive net income,
          it is not surprising that new arrivals to the big time
          do not flourish financially." (Emphasis added).

This statement seems to be more evidence that the NCAA is trying to
dissuade Div. I-AA schools from trying to upgrade to Div. I-A.
     Finally in the last sentence of paragraph 2, the authors
admit:
          "It is important to note that none of these studies
          found that expanding athletic programs causes a
          significant reduction in net revenue." (Emphasis added).

That finding is supportive of our re-instituting our football
program.

     With respect to paragraph 3, their finding of previous
studies, is limited to a statement constrained by the word "net"
revenue.  And, of course, none of these studies consider
expenditure upon capital improvements.  As stated above, a $1 in
and a $1 back, is a good thing, as it expands the base, and the
potential for future income.

     In paragraph 4, the authors recognize indirect effects.  They
have no studies measuring indirect effects, but they know they in
fact exist.  Says paragraph 4:

          "Such indirect effects come in two quantifiable forms:
          indirect financial effects and indirect non-financial but
          nonetheless quantifiable effects ... In addition, there
          may be non-quantifiable effects (e.g., effects on school
          spirit), which by definition are difficult to examine
          in an empirical fashion but may manifest themselves
          indirectly through quantifiable factors (e.g.,   
     applications)."

We already have a local Kansas example, re alumni donations, of the
quote from the K-State professor in the Sports Illustrated article,
that there was a positive synergistic effect from the K-State
football success, resulting in increased academic contributions.
And, we have our own example which includes even non-alumni
contributions.  When we had moral leadership trying to do the right
thing, we raised $26 million, of which $6 was from Koch and $2.5
million each was from Geist and Devlon. ...  I suspect there are
folks with significant amounts of moneys, who are WSU graduates,
and who may not care much about football; but if approached on the
basis of solving our student loss problem and becoming a
traditional university again, might well be interested in helping
out the cause.
     And as to quantifiable effects of increased applications
acknowledged by the report writers, the positive effect upon K-
State and the negative effect on WSU resulting in a delta increment
of 8,000 students over the 18 year time frame; resulted from the
institution of the exact opposite policies.

     With respect to paragraph 5, and alumni donations, 11 studies
are cited, with 7 of the studies being positive in findings that
athletic success increases alumni donations, 2 are neutral, and 2
are negative.  And, I suspect the negative folks started with an
agenda.
    
     As to paragraph 6, they don't define what they mean by
"variation" in won/lost records.  Do they mean that if the winning
percentage went up, that donors contributed less to general
purposes.  At K-State they didn't.  The effect was synergistic, and
contributions to academics went up.  And, if they mean that if the
winning percentage went down, that the contributions to academics
also went down -- a negative effect -- then most folks would expect
that to be the case.  But then the authors admit:

          "[t]he share of graduates who make gifts specifically
          for athletics is not affected by athletic success, but
          amounts given to athletics are positively affected...
          Shulman and Bowen (2001) find no evidence that gifts
          to athletics crowd out gifts to general university
          funds." (Emphasis added).         

Please note our experience, graduate or not, that it only takes one
Koch, Geist, Devlon, Coulter, Wagnon, Carney, etc. to significantly
impact a program, and amounts given to a program, even though the
total number, "share", of contributors remain about constant.
     Nor should the faculty get piggish about it.  Its not their
money.  The faculty who preen themselves and look down their nose
at us great unwashed common tax payers, who fund education and
their salaries for teaching one or two three hour classes and
working about 10 hours a week total, (We twice hand delivered a
position paper to 55 faculty senate members between 2 and 4 p.m.,
as I recall, once on a Thursday and once on a Friday, and found
only 5 professors, 3 on one day and 2 on another, 5 total for both
days, in their offices available for student consultations); are
not owed any additional obligations beyond state taxes to fund
education.  It's the money of the individual members of the
community, who can do with their money what they want, beyond
taxes.  So we shouldn't have to listen to any faculty carping that
if we reinstitute football it will somehow accrue to less money for
them.

     Note: To understand what it is we have been confronted with
and had to deal with from the faculty in the past, just in case the
faculty might cause concern, you might want to review a March 23,
1995 letter from the then president of the faculty senate, Joyce
Cavarozzi, containing the following statement:

          "As teachers, faculty know how easy it is to
          reach wrong conclusions when one is not fully
          informed."

To which the 11 page retort to M?s Cavarozzi was supplied by this
writer on March 30, 1995.  President Hughes was copied on the
letter, as well as 55 members of the faculty senate, the W.S.U.
Board of Trustees, the W.S.U. student senate, selected community
leaders, etc.  I can provide copies if you wish to review them and
Julia can't find them in the president's (Hughes at the time)
files.  

     As to paragraph 7, "Athletic success may also affect
application and enrollment", I would refer to my initial analysis
comments which dealt with this paragraph, the Goff (2000) report,
and the related statement on page 31.

     With respect to paragraph 8, after first having to admit that:
"[t]he evidence is that athletic success increases applications",
the authors then give away their bias, by changing the subject to
talk about "academic quality".  They don't like to discuss the
positive results of increased students, so they change the subject
and discuss their inability to determine whether or not there is
any affect upon "quality".  Further, the statements concerning
other reports are subjective as to what the other reports purport
to say, with the other reports themselves remaining nebulous,
undefined, and undisclosed as to the definitive bases for their
study and analysis.  We are just presented cites to the reports
together with these authors subjective conclusions.  Which
conclusions in paragraph 8 are in any case not definitive re
athletic success vis-a-vis "quality" of applicants.

     As to paragraph 9, Rishe's finding that a $1 increase in
football net revenue is associated with $.20 increase in
expenditures on women's sports; and Sheehan's finding that $1
increase in football net revenue raises women's expenditures by
$.32 and other men's expenditures by $.13; and Sheehan's additional
finding that increases in expenditures on women's sports are
associated with a reduction in net revenue from women's sports; in
reason, argues that the best benefit, including benefit to women,
is accomplished by investment in football.  Paragraph 9 accordingly
is evidence supporting our reinstatement of football, as we could
expect additional moneys to also benefit women's sports and other
men's minor sports.

                         XII. Section II
                       Description of Data

     The authors attempts to put together a sufficient database
seems to be reasonable.  But the authors' admission concerning the
data base, should be noted:

          "The construction of the database revealed numerous
          inconsistencies both across and within various data
          sets... The resultant database, although an improvement
          relative to previous data efforts in this area, clearly
          has important limitations that are discussed in more
          detail below."

                        XIII. Section III
               Basic Facts about Athletic Spending

     This section is interesting as it exhibits a gleed fact that
the percentage of operating athletic expenditures as against
overall higher education spending, does not shock the conscience.
(See Table 1).  2.8 percent as against total university spending
and 3.6 percent as against education and general spending, is no
more than we usually pay the faculty for their annual cost of
living raises and also less than us great unwashed taxpayers
usually pay the faculty for their annual automatic -- excuse me,
merit -- raises, which are given for teaching the same course, from
the same notes for each of the last 10 years, to perhaps state the
case somewhat strongly.  So, the point is, that the faculty have no
standing as to our private money, and ought not to be heard re our
public money, as long as we aren't taking their tenure away from
them, or requesting them to contribute a percentage of their salary
to reinstitute football; justified on the basis that without
additional students for them to teach, we might have to WU-Shock
scythe and permanently furlough a few of the more egregious
preeners.  God forbid that they might then have to take a job at a
traditional university with a football team.
     Also interesting is the last full paragraph on page 14.  One
could opine that smaller schools, particularly Div. II and III,
have to pay a higher percentage of athletic spending vs total
educational budget, either because their athletic programs are not
quality, are not attractive, and are not well supported, or because
the school's total budget is of lesser status, percentage-wise.
One could also opine that smaller Div. I, and Div. II and Div. III
schools, don't have the prestige to obtain larger overall budgets,
in the face of competition from more prestigious schools with
quality athletic programs.  Miami, is a fine example of a small
school, 6,000 + students, that I believe is a private school, that
has prospered financially in athletics by investing in its football
team and winning five national championships.  Are there many folks
nationally that view Miami as a small urban commuter school? -- not
hardly.
     With respect to growth in athletic programs, exhibited on page
15, I would suggest a variation of Parkinson's law (found on p.
398-399, Dictionary of Theories), that athletic spending and
program growth expands to fill the additional available dollars for
expenditure.  So the effect is synergistic.  Athletic program
success, attracts additional available dollars, which wisely
invested in the product, broadens the base, and attracts additional
support and further additional dollars for expenditure.  (Say,
isn't it fun to play with the Dictionary of Theories for laws,
principles, theories, and 'ism's, as they imply and generate
rationale and thought processes, for not only the matters they
directly deal with, but as they suggest application even to
unrelated matters).
     With respect to Figure 2, and the first full paragraph of page
16, I suspect the result of the decline in spending in men's sports
other than football and basketball, is directly a function of
increased spending on women's sports.  But as previously exhibited
by the report, the increased spending on women's sports occurs
precisely as a result of increased spending (wisely invested) in
football and basketball, that has produced addition revenue
available to be spent on women's sports.  Broadening the base at
WSU by re-instituting football can, by the reports statistics and
findings, only accrue to additional money being available for
expenditure on women's sports.
     As to the issue of "Inequality in football spending", the
obvious should be stated.  The rich get richer because they learned
how to get rich in the first instance, and so wisely keep investing
in the process that is successful.  Once the syllogism is
established and learned, there is no reason not to apply it again.
The better programs earn more money and can thereafter, by Marrs'
variation of Parkinson's law, wisely investing in the product, earn
and spend additional moneys on the program.  The top 4 bowls pay
about $12,000,000 to each team.  Other bowls pay 1-3 million or
less.  This finding of inequality (Note: not inequity -- a lack of
equity, injustice, or unfairness -- but rather simply a condition
of being unequal), should be expected to continue as the better
programs will earn more money, spend more money, recruit the better
talent, and continue to have the better teams.  But once in a while
a bottom school will make a commitment like K-State, and over a
period of time, will work its way up the ladder to the top, as K-
State has.
     And the report on page 18-19, Table 3 identifies and suggests
a moderate degree of mobility in football spending over a period of
8 years.
     Figure 5 exhibits that mean expenditures on Division I-A
basketball has increased since 1993, and the report concludes that
spending inequality in men's basketball has risen significantly
since 1993.  I suspect that WSU will soon be a major contributor to
future inequality studies, as we have invested in Charles Koch
Arena which will result in better recruiting, a higher winning
percentage, more folks going to games, more income to the program;
all of which will allow for more investment -- hopefully wisely in
a manner to improve the program -- expenditures on the basketball
program, as well as probably resulting additional expenditures on
women's and minor men's sports.
     I am enclosing a copy of my marked up page 20, as I have
superimposed Figure 3 mean expenditure numbers for Div. I-A
football, on the Figure 6 mean revenue numbers; and then calculated
and superimposed the percentage of mean expenditures over mean
revenue numbers for the same time periods.  The interesting result
is that the ratio of mean revenue to mean spending remains stable
over the time period from 1993 to 2001, at about 60 percent.  I
would submit that this comparison of known data, with institutional
support subtracted, proves that Div. I-A football is profitable.
Expenditures are only 60 percent of income.  I would also
specifically note the report's statement in the last paragraph of
page 20, that:
         
          "[r]evenue from football increased (in inflation-adjusted
          terms) by more than a third between 1993 and 2001 (Figure
          6).  As with spending, there appears to have been an
          acceleration in revenue in the late 1990s: In the four
          years between 1993 and 1997, real football revenue rose
          by six percent; in the four years between 1997 and 2001,
          revenue rose by 28 percent."  (Emphasis added).

Please note the apparent interrelationship between spending and
revenue.  As spending goes up, so did also the revenue, which
allowed for more spending, while the ratio or percentage of
spending to revenue remained approximately 60 percent.  Most
importantly, "between 1997 and 2001 (for which years they presently
have data) revenue rose by 28 percent."  In the stock market world,
folks would consider this to be a good investment.  I would submit
that these numbers suggest that now is a very attractive time to
invest in a football program.
     From paragraph 1 on page 21, it is apparent that the adjusted
data exhibited in Figure 7, is the worst case scenario.  I would
note that the report states that about 67 percent of both football
and basketball programs in Div. I-A reported positive net revenue
(62 percent using adjusted net revenue for football) for 2001.
This emphasizes where the money comes from to support other sports
programs.  Footnote 15 confirms that schools don't always have
positive net revenue and don't always have negative net revenue.
They go up and down, probably depending upon the quality of their
programs, and football and basketball teams.  To maintain positive
net income, a school needs to invest wisely and maintain winning
football and basketball teams.  It seems like most other
competition in society, which we should not quail in the face of or
go wobbly about. 


                         XIV. Section IV:
                 The Effects of Athletic Spending

     This entire Section seems bent on supporting the NCAA's desire
to particularly discourage Div. I-AA and I-AAA schools from
attempting to upgrade their athletic programs, and particularly
football competition, in face of admitted evidence to the contrary.
     Admits the report:

          "Indeed, looking across Division I-A in 2001, schools
          that spent more on football tended to have higher levels
          of net revenue from football than schools that spent less
          on football (Figure 8)."  (Emphasis added).

     With respect to bullet point "Indirect costs", on page 23,
what in fact constitutes an indirect cost?  Anyone who has
endeavored to review school budgets, and I must admit to the sin,
understands the magic ability of accountants, for which abilities
I hold in the highest regard.  Rober Lowe -- darn, I did it again.
Sudermann should have never told me that story -- [sic] Roger Lowe,
is world class.  Query, does the time some school administrator
like Ted Ayres spends considering some athletic related issue
constitute for accounting purposes, an indirect cost to athletics
-- I make no comment as to whether it should or shouldn't.
Apparently, schools vary all over the spectrum on these kind of
issues, which makes the data a little difficult to discern, to
understate the problem.
     Figure 9 and the associated paragraph on page 24, are argued
in nebulous subjective terms so that the authors conclusions are
legitimately suspect.  How is the word "expanded" defined?  How so,
how did they expand their program?  The answer is apparently: "by
larger amounts".  So, the real issue is then, what did you spend
the money on?  And, of course, these folks don't know.  But it is
impossible to substantively judge the statement without knowing
what the money was spent for.  Then they conclude, that they:

          "[d]id not enjoy increases in net revenue that were
          larger (in a statistically significant sense) than
          schools that expanded their football programs by
          more modest amounts." (Emphasis added).

Please note the necessity for the conclusion, of the undefined
subjective word "modest".  More importantly, the necessity for the
conclusion of the subjective prepositional phrase "in a
statistically significant sense", contained wholly in the mind of
the authors.  But the phrase itself suggests that the necessity of
the phrase is required in order to allow the conclusion, and
suggests by implication that, in fact, they enjoyed increases in
net revenue that were larger than schools that did not expanded as
much as measured by the amount of dollars spent; only just not
statistically significant in the minds of the authors.
     And, the authors then admit, citing Appendix I data, that on
average, $1 additional expenditure results in an addition dollar of
football revenue, as follows:

          "The results suggest that, on average, each additional
          dollar that a Division I-A university spends on football
          is associated with roughly one additional dollar of
          football revenue -- so football net revenue is unchanged.
          In other words, an inflation-adjusted increase in
          football spending of one dollar was associated with
          roughly one additional dollar in football revenue between
          1993 and 2001." (Emphasis added).
         
A dollar invested and a dollar back, is a good thing, particularly
if the initial dollar is a contribution gift.  But the conclusion
I draw is that the authors are stridently struggling to support the
NCAA's desire to discourage Div. I-AA and I-AAA schools from
upgrading their football programs, or even to discourage lessor
Div. I-A schools from competing with the larger most profitable
football schools for which the NCAA is in league, probably as a
result of TV income.  Hence the need by the authors to qualify
their required supporting statements for the NCAA's benefit, by
subjective word game playing.
     But while the results quoted above for Appendix 1 data, are
positive, even then the equation seems to measure the expenditures
and revenues, for only the year t.  But what if spending is in year
t, say for capital improvements which they apparently don't
measure, or even for any other expenditure that they do measure;
that results in additional revenue in year u, some time down the
road, beyond the 8 year period reviewed?  And they have already
admitted in Figure 6, p. 20, that while football revenues increased
in the first four years from 1993 to 1997 by 6 percent, for the
four years between 1997 and 2001 they increased 28 percent, which
increases are non-linear.  Accordingly, what the data will indicate
for the four years between 2001 to 2005, should be very interesting
as to what folks accomplish, given their experience and profit
between 1997 and 2001.  If the increases would have been linear,
they would have been expected to be 12 percent for the four years
1997-2001. 
     Further as to Figure 9, p.24, if a vertical line is drawn, so
that the change in football expenditure is zero, only 10 schools of
the some 76 schools considered in Figure 9, in the eight year
period will be seen to have reduced football expenditures, 7 of
which only slightly.  Perhaps that is because $1 additional
football expenditure is $1 additional revenue, or is it $1.32 as
found by Sheehan (2000), paragraph 9, page 12.
     Nor are the three bullet examples for significant direct
financial returns, and the three bullet examples for nominal
reduction, anecdotal evidence; persuasive in my mind as to the
authors' gymnastics word playing in order to support the NCAA's
requested position.  And I am hard headed about it -- as you know
I don't believe the NCAA is pure as the driven snow.  For example,
the unwillingness to disclose the full RPI equation and factors. 
     The WAC example is couched in terms of "fell in nominal
terms".  What is the magnitude of such "nominal terms"? 
     The one school in The Conference USA example identified
expenditure of only $250,000 per year over four years.  For most
programs, this would not be considered a significant yearly change.
Nor is there any explanation of what the money was spent for.
Maybe Ted Ayres got an annual merit raise, and Roger Lowe
attributed it to football expenditures, just to make the point, ad
absurdum, of how much we potentially don't know about the data that
is available.  But it seems embarrassingly obvious, that while it
may be gymnastically interesting, these are not exactly,
necessarily, definitive analysis.  It might even be more
appropriate, to step back, and take a general look at how all these
schools nationally continue to annually conduct programs, and
reasonably conclude that it is successfully accomplished, ergo it
can be accomplished, so lets use our intelligence and work the
problem, probably by selling the program on the basis of our need
to grow our student body, and the windfall tuition accountability
unique benefit of some potential $34 million we can obtain if we do
so. 
     And, the Mountain West school example is presented as a
negative, apparently for the reason that the increase in revenue
was less than the investment.  It was however, not a decrease in
revenue, and, depending upon the investment, the question remains
as to whether the revenue increase will continue beyond the four
year period, should the investment stop, which data is unavailable.
     But even then the authors are forced to admit:

          "Similarly, some schools benefitted from moving up
          to Division I-A, but the experience varied across
          schools.  For example, two schools earned significant
          financial returns after moving to Division I-A; one
          experienced a decline in football net revenue after
          moving to Division I-A." (Emphasis added).

Again, what did the one school spend its money on when it moved to
Div. I-A?  And, note, they qualify the decline as net decline,
which doesn't mean they had a decline in revenue overall, but just
a decline relative to the net revenue they experience prior to
upgrading to Div. I-A.  And, the magnitude of the decline of net
revenue is unstated.
     By Tables 5a, 5b, and 5c, the authors suggest some degree of
mobility in winning percentages.  The statement: "The correlation
of winning percentages two years apart is 33 to 51 percent.", on
page 27 for Table 5a, is a true statement; but really is not as
definitive as it could have been.  When looked at sequentially, the
numbers are: 1993-1995, 51 %; 1995-1997, 44 %; 1997-1999, 33 %; and
1999-2001, 38 %.  So, while the stated range is correct, it seems
more important to state that the trend seems to be down.  The trend
was down from 1993 to 1999, being from 51 % to 33 %, although the
following two years has seen the percentage go back up to 38 %.  Is
the upward movement the last two years from 33 to 38 percent the
starting of a new upward trend, or is it just a slight aberration
in an overall downward trend?  In any case, I agree with the
authors that there seems to be some degree of mobility in winning
percentages.  I suspect this to be expected as the study is looking
at all Div. I-A schools, so that on the average I would expect
"mobility" in winning percentages.  That is not to say however,
that the upper echelon of schools don't continue to win, and the
lower echelon of schools don't continue to be on the losing side,
probably because of continuing policies, procedures, and acts, of
the leadership of both categories. 
     For Table 5b the authors state they do not present the
correlation beyond 20 years: "[b]ecause the correlation appears to
be relatively stable as the time horizon lengthens."  Apparently,
subsequent to 20 years the correlation flattens out and remains
about 16 percent.  Enclosed is a graph of the data of Table 5b,
which exhibits that the data is a smooth non-linear curve,
asymptotic to 100 percent as required by definition, and apparently
also almost asymptotic to 16 percent.  However, since the time
period of the data looked at is stated to be from 1955 to 2001, 46
years, and since the authors state they do not exhibit the results
beyond two decades because of limited data, I am assuming the data
plotted represents data for the last 20 years, from 1981 to 2001.
If this is so, a comparison of the truncated data for just 1993-
2001, provides the curve exhibited for Table 5a.  Note, the
truncated more recent data is not asymptotic.  The question then
is: does this more recent data indicate a trend towards greater
correlation of winning percentages?  Subsequent data may answer the
question, but presently, I'm not able to make any definitive
conclusion.  If you relate the correlation of decade averages of
winning percentage, sequentially back 10 years, as exhibited in
Table 5c, starting between 1965-1974, between 1975-1984, and
between 1985-1994, it is seen that the progression is 42%, 55%, to
59%.  And, if you relate the correlation of decade averages of
winning percentages, sequentially back 20 years, starting between
1975-1984, and between 1985-1994, it is seen that the progression
is 30% to 49%.  So there may be some indication of a trend towards
greater correlation of winning percentages.  But I would still have
to see more recent data to make any conclusion.
     As to the presented issue of a potential "arms race", the
authors observation of the data concluded that any such existence
is unproven.  Further, since WSU has not had a football team for
the last 18 years, we obviously have not been involved in any "arms
race".  Obviously, no one at any other university has spent any
money on football to compete with WSU's lack of a football team,
but they have enjoyed the benefit of additional students because of
a lack of a football team at WSU, to wit: KU and K-State.
     The issues of "Other quantifiable effects", on page 31, I have
dealt with in my prior analysis letter.
    
                          XV. Section V
                    Conclusions and Next Steps

     It is unnecessary to  reiterate the issues presented in
Section V Conclusions, and I will rather rely upon the prior
analysis, and the exhibited analysis above.

                         XVI. Conclusion

     I should first thank you for your indulgence in the few
attempts at humor above.  One of my excuses is that after having to
recreate XI. Section I from memory, without any prior notes of
issues and items of rationale, I suffered such brain damage from
attempting to recreate 6 or 7 pages of analysis, that I just
naturally rebelled from the process, needed some relief, and so
allowed myself the freedom to wonder from my normal need to stay
focused on specific issues.  Nor was Section I successfully
recreated, as I am confident some elements were added and some were
left out, and so Section I was in some respects, a new drafted
section. 
     It is however our hope that the effort presented in our prior
analysis letter, and the above analysis letter, will be of benefit
to your consideration of the captioned Interim Report on The
Empirical Effects Of Collegiate Athletics.  It is further our hope
that our analysis letters sufficiently dispel any notion, and
defrock any previous advice, you may have received that the Interim
Report is authority against any attempt to reinstate football at
WSU.  As we have presented, the Interim Report can in fact be cited
in support of reinstating football at WSU, including specifically
the loss of students and inability to grow students over the last
18 years.
     In appreciation of your consideration of the above, we are
with,

     Kind regards,

                                        Shocker Black & Golds

                                        By:                 

                                           Fred Marrs            

 

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Initial response to NCAA study

by Fred Marrs 16. August 2004 19:00

 
 Dr. Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
-------------------
-------------------
Wichita, Ks

            RE: The Empirical Effects of Collegiate
                  Athletics: An Interim Report

Dear Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,

    The following is my analysis of the captioned paper you
provided for my review:

              I. QUESTION PRESENTED FOR ANALYSIS:

            Did WSU's Suspension of Football in 1986
              Cause the Loss of Students, and the
             Continual Inability of WSU to Attract
          Students Even to the Level of Approximately
            17,000 Students we Enjoyed in 1986; and
              Does the Captioned Report Offer any
         Relevant Evidence Applicable to the Question?

         II. Results of Review of the Captioned Report

    In summary fashion, it is unnecessary to exhibit the analysis
of the entire report, in order to respond to the presented
question.

    The report purports to be an independent analysis (I do not
suspect the claim of independence to be pure as the driven snow) of
"empirical effects".  When I was in engineering school, we
considered empirical analysis to be the study of data and the
results exhibited by the data, not the result of subjective
opinions.  My dictionary defines "empirical", thus:

         "Relying upon or derived from observation or experiment.
         Guided by practical experience and not theory."

In the present matter, we have the most relevant evidence, in
short, what in fact happened to WSU, statically, student-wise,
subsequent to president Armstrong's suspension of football.  We
have the actual practical experience to observe, and do not need
a priori theories or assumed axioms, or to consider whether other
folks studies and statements are relevant to our experienced
situation.

    But you query and posit whether there is in fact a
relationship between Armstrong's suspending football, the
subsequent significant loss of some 3000 students, and the
continued inability for the last 18 years to even overcome the
loss, let alone to grow additional students beyond our original
almost 17,000 level, to the equal level of K-State that we had
obtained in 1986 (less 442 students), which K-State 17,000 level
has now grown to 23,050.  Rather than being compatible with K-
State, we are now some 8000 students less than K-State.

    ¶X---------------------------------------------------------X

    ¶X---------------------------------------------------------X

    But how then does the report consider the presented issue?
The answer is that each of the 10 "Hypothesis" of the report, are
unrelated to the question of loss of football having a cause and
effect relationship to the loss of students, and inability to grow
students.

    However, in Section I, discussing "Existing Empirical
Literature", the report cites, acknowledges, and affirmatively
supports the relationship, on page 11 paragraph 2, thus:

         "Athletic success may also affect applications and
         enrollment... For schools not at capacity or for
         schools with the ability to expand capacity, increased
         applications could translate into increased enrollment
         and higher general revenue.  The literature generally
         finds that athletic success is associated with increased
         applications and enrollment: Murphy and Trandel (1994),
         using panel data on schools in major conferences from
         1978 to 1987, find that schools with more successful
         football teams receive more applications, although the
         effect is relatively modest.  Zimbalist (1999) similarly
         finds, using panel data from 1980 through 1995, that
         athletic success is associated with increased
         applications.  Mixon and Hsing (1994) find that out-of-
         state students prefer schools with larger sports
         programs.  Mixon and Rand (1995) find that doubling the
         number of NCAA basketball tournament games played would
         lead to a six percent increase in out-of-state
         enrollment.  Goff (2000) finds that dropping football
         can have measurable, negative effects on enrollments,
         even for second-tier schools." (Emphasis added) p.11
         causa finita est.

Given the specifically on point observable empirical experience and
data, and results of exactly the opposite decisions being made in
the exact same year, 1986, for K-State and WSU, with the exact
opposite observable empirical results over the last 18 years, and
with no even reasonable suggestion of any other factors effecting
the obvious observable empirical data; in reason, we should not
have to struggle to look for outside a priori theories or other
outside factual analogies to teach us what it is our own experience
clearly demonstrates.  (See, Dictionary of Theories, causal
realism, causal theories, and causal principle, p.81)  That is
unless the intent is to attempt to avoid the obvious, and simply
use verbal subjective gymnastics, as rationale to support not
solving our fundamental problem of loss of students and our
inability to substantively increase our enrollment over an extended
18 year period of time, notwithstanding we buy students with mil-
levy funded scholarships.  But even the outside empirical data in
fact support our own experience, as cited above.

    Moreover, the Goff (2000) study is specifically and directly
on point, exhibits the answer to our presented question, and
deserves to be repeated for emphasis, thus:

         "Goff (2000) finds that dropping football can have
         measurable, negative effects on enrollments, even
         for second-tier schools." (Emphasis added).

The Bibliography of the report lists the Goff (2000) study, thus:

         "Goff, Brian, "Effects of University Athletics on
         the University: A Review and Extension of Empirical
         Assessment," Journal of Sport Management, 2000, volume
         14, pages 85-104."

I suspect this Goff study to in fact involve WSU and Long Beach
State, as well as other "second-tier schools", perhaps Div. 1-AA
etc.  The Journal of Sport Management should be available to you or
your athletic director, and the article should be obtained for its
"measurable" data, and conformation of the conclusions of the
study.  This study may in fact encompass the entire envelope of
schools that have dropped football.  And, Goff says the
"measurable" results show "negative effects on enrollments".

    While I say it is unnecessary to look to outside experience
when we have our own more relevant facts and data, nevertheless the
Goff study additionally supports our own experience, and may in
fact include our experience along with all other schools who have
dropped football.

    Neither do any of the 10 Hypothesis of the report considered,
provide any conclusions to the contrary, and most are entirely
irrelevant to our presented question, although some indirectly
support the suggested solution to our problem, which simply is to
solve the economic funding issues, and reinstitute a viable
moderate Div. I-A football program probably at about the WAC level.

    Nor do I find in my review, any statement in the report that
would support any negative conclusions to the above issues.

    But you will say: in Section V: "The Effects of Athletic
Spending", under "Other quantifiable effects" paragraph 1, p. 31,
states:

         "Part of the supposed Flutie effect is that athletic
         programs generate other benefits for institutions
         of higher education.  These benefits could manifest
         themselves in a variety of ways, including increased
         applications, increased student quality, and increased
         annual giving. ... Our analysis, for example, suggests
         ... no robust relationship between football spending
         or success and the university's acceptance rate (that
         is, the percentage of applicants accepted by the
         university).  As noted above, the existing empirical
         literature on these issues is mixed." (Emphasis added).

    Please note the use of the subjective word "robust", implies
there is some relationship, but the report writer doesn't want to
plead that case.  (In my subsequent analysis letter, I will deal
with this bias as a function of the perceived basis of the NCAA's
requested and paid for study in the first instance).

    But more importantly, "acceptance rate" -- the percentage of
applicants accepted -- is not the issue.  For example, if a
university accepts 85 or 100 percent, etc, of 500 applicants, and
thereafter expends additional moneys in some fashion resulting in
greater football success, and thereafter accepts 85 or 100 percent,
etc, of 1000 applicants, the acceptance rate -- the percentage of
applicants accepted, remains unchanged.  But the number of
applicants doubled, and so did the absolute number of students
accepted, thereby increasing the student body population.

    While I suspect this quoted statement above to be the basis of
your concern, that this report might suggest increased spending on
football does not lead to additional students; that statement in
fact does not say that, or anything at all about whether or not
there is associated with additional spending on football and
football success, additional applications by prospective students.
It only speaks to the "percentage" of applicants accepted, not
whether there are additional applications associated with spending
and success.  But while the quoted sentence doesn't speak to the
issue, on p. 11 the report specifically found a positive
relationship, as partially quoted here, and fully quoted above, as
to various reports in the literature, thus:

         "The literature generally finds that athletic success is
         associated with increased applications and enrollment:"

    And, as to the issue of increased giving, we would be remiss
if we did not keep in mind our experience, that when we determined
to save and renovate Cessna stadium in its 30,000 plus seat
capacity, for $3.2 million of which $2.2 million was public mil-
levy money; the results were we were then able to obtain about half
the money by gift to build phase IV of the baseball stadium, which
probably had the result of maintaining Gene Stephenson as our
baseball coach; and, Charles Koch, when he contributed $6 million
towards the round house project, specifically stated as rationale
for his gift:

         "I am now convinced the university is headed
         in the right direction." (Emphasis added).

Mr. Koch was previously copied on all our papers on the football
stadium issue, as well as were 100 other community leaders, and it
is apparent he supported saving Cessna stadium, although we never
ask him for his involvement or for any contribution to save Cessna
stadium.  But once he saw the university striving to do the right
thing and solve the problems, he provided the seed money and
leadership that resulted in additional contributions and a $26
million dollar renovation to what is now Charles Koch Arena, a
massive positive contribution to the university and this community.
And, it is only a matter of time until this sports expenditure
results in increased basketball success and increased basketball
revenue and alumni giving.  In fact, last year has already seen the
beginnings of the resulting benefits.

                        III. CONCLUSION

    In partial conclusion, I should emphasize that I do not
believe there is anything in the report that is contra to the
obvious exhibited results of our own experience vis-a-vis K-State.
In fact the report cites with agreement other studies in the
literature specifically supporting our experience.  If you still
think there is some statement or exhibited rationale that is contra
to the conclusion that: suspending football caused our loss of
students; and more importantly, the lack of football has continued
over the last some 18 years to preclude our ability to project as
a traditional university and to grow and attract additional
students; I would appreciate your drawing to my attention a
citation to specific language of the 50 page report.

    It is simply incredible that over a period of 18 years, while
KU and K-State and other schools in Kansas have continued to
experience additional student body growth, that WSU over the same
period and under the same state economic conditions, cannot even
return to our student body status we had at the time of the
disastrous unconscionable decision to suspend football.

    And, I shall gratuitously add that it is also incredible, that
the Board of Regents has not seemed, at any time for the last 18
years, to be profoundly concerned with the loss of student problem
they created for WSU, in the very process and opposite decisions
they made, to solve the same loss of student problem for K-State.
The hypocrisy reeks.  They were then profoundly concerned with
K-State's loss of students -- so said Chairman and Regent Sondra
McMillian -- but they now seem more than willing to except our loss
of students for the same reason, particularly when a significant
portion of said loss goes to KU and K-State.

    It is my serious opinion, that unless we solve this problem,
the university will never reach its full potential, and will
further be lucky to survive additional attacks to relegate WSU to
a lesser status in the State than KU and K-State, as evidence by
unjust consistent lesser per capita State spending at WSU vis-a-vis
KU and K-State per capita State spending.  And this is so even
ignoring KU's medical school (including that portion of the KU
medical school the KU Board of Regents xxxxx -- excuse me,
transferred -- from WSU) expenditure, which expenditure is half of
the total KU State expenditure, the results of which were, the last
time I checked the numbers, that only about 8 percent of the
graduating class of doctors, stay in the state.  So, out of a class
of 54 graduating students, only 4 doctors stayed in Kansas.  As I
recall, at the time the cost of the KU medical school to the Kansas
taxpayers was over $311,000,000/year -- I think the year was 1995.
Lets see $311,000,000 divided by 4 ... well, you get the idea.  We
could buy more than four doctors a year for $311,000,000.  Where is
it do you suspect the evidence suggests the Board of Regents
interest lies?

    I have said this is a partial conclusion, for the reason that
I have carefully read the entire report, and have other comments.
They are however not necessary for the analysis relating to our
question presented.  There are additional comments that indirectly
support my position and conclusions I have drawn, that I will try
to present in a follow on general analysis of various aspects of
the report.

    One caveat is that I do not intend to deal with any
substantive analysis of the data contained in the Appendices.  I
must candidly admit that I am not familiar with the equations or
methods the equations represent in this area, and would have to
take a class to be taught the equations, rationale and processes of
the study approaches, or to otherwise potentially read a book or
books on the subject matter and teach myself, in order to
potentially have the ability to substantively comment upon the
methods and equations being used.  And, to accomplish that process
would be of great time consumption, and in any case I do not see
that it would probably impact the conclusions I have presently
drawn.  I in fact rely upon the authors' representations of what
the equations and data exhibit.  But as time permits, I intend to
follow up with some additional general comments that might be of
benefit in considering the rest of the report that I have not dealt
with.

    In appreciation of your consideration of the above, we are
with,

    Kind regards,

                                       Shocker Black & Golds

                                       By:

                                          Fred Marrs

p.s. On 12 Dec. '02, I wrote Xxxx Xxxxxxxxx a similar analysis
letter of an Ohio State Football article he asked me to review and
comment upon, which letter I copied you on.  Since it deals with
the football issue, and is relevant in part to the above, I am
inclosing a copy for the convenience of filing should you wish to
keep a separate file on this subject matter.

 
  

 

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Ohio State Article

by Fred Marrs 12. December 2002 09:30

 
 Mr. Xxxx xxxxxxxxx
----------------- Wichita, KS -----

                RE: Ohio State Football Article
Dear Xxxx,

    Prior to reading the captioned article you sent me, I noticed
the author was writing for "The Chronicle of Higher Education".
When educators talk to each other in their politically correct
education speak, its like two clones talking to each other.  There
is no chance for any off the reservation linearly deductive thought
processes.  But I diligently carefully read the article anyway.

    When I finished the article, it reminded me of the Clent
Eastwood movie Joe Kidd, also staring Robert Duval, and John
Saxton.  The movie is about a range war between the mexicans led by
Louis Chama, John Saxton, and a rancher, Robert Duval, who leads a
gang of hired guns who have a little mexican mountain town treed,
and who is in bed with the local law.  The scene the article made
me remember, takes place on the mountain overlooking the town, in
which Joe Kidd, Clent Eastwood, is confronting Chama and his gang
all by himself, and is trying to convince Chama to turn himself in
to the local law and rely upon Joe Kidd to get him to another town
for trial.  Chama's senorita chimes in, in support of Joe Kidd's
argument, saying if Chama does not give himself up, Duval's gang
will kill them all, including the town mexicans he is presently
threatening to kill, one ever 10 minutes, unless Chama gives
himself up.  The language that the captioned article made me
specifically recall, by Louis Chama in his best mexican accent, is
as follows:

         "Woman, I bring you along for times in the afternoon
         when there is nothing to do, and for cold nights, not
         to hear you talk."

    While it shouldn't, it never ceases to amaze me: that there is
no principle or linearly deductive rationale that the self anointed
superior intellect elitist clones of university professors and
education folks, are not prepared to abandon; and always with a
high degree of moral superiority; in order to damn athletics.  They
are no better than spoiled brats who want all the attention, and
are jealous of any program or anyone who the public might deem more
important than they are.  They ought to be happy with what they
have.  We might take their tenure away from them, or actually make
them work more than 10 hours a week, with no outside consulting
contracts, or government stipends for researching such socially
important things as the mating habits of liberals and other brain
dead vermin.  But lets see if I can understand the article clearly
written for university professors and administrative folks.

    Somehow, they manage to damn a $79 million a year total
athletic program at Ohio State, which they admit is totally
privately funded.  They preen themselves, criticize the program as
requiring "an avalanche of money" -- although private money -- and
announce with profound concern their indignation that sports at
Ohio State should have the audacity to do so well as to pay:

         "[t]he university roughly $12.5 million this year to
         cover overhead costs, income tax, and other expenses.
         Included in that amount is $8 million to cover the
         cost of 400 athletic scholarships.",

while they had to suffer because of state budget cuts, and did not
get their normal automatic 5 percent "cost of living" increases,
their automatic "merit" raises, and their normal 5 percent pension
benefit raise contributions, thusly:

         "People on the campus outside of athletics are not
         entirely comfortable with the Buckeyes' rapid expansion,
         particularly in light of cuts in statewide
         appropriations.  The university placed a moratorium on
         new athletic buildings in 2000, following the completion
         of stadium renovations and the construction of the
         Schottenstein Center." (Emphasis added).

The Ohio folks should trade the "People on the campus outside of
athletics", their automatic raises for their tenure, this year, and
then seriously consider the resumes of all the bright young recent
grad school graduates salivating for the opportunity of a job, and
willing to work more than 10 hours a week at it, if they were
hired.  They would probably even agree to stay in their offices in
the afternoons for student consultations.

    And please note, they draw their authority from the fact that
they are: "People on the campus", and contend in the process, that
all people on the campus who are not in athletics -- all but the
athletic department's 220 full time employees -- agree with each
other on the issue.  I don't know the enrollment at Ohio State, but
I suspect it is about 40,000.  So, there should be a considerable
number of faculty, staff, and folks outside of the athletic
department, but the writer assumes to speak for all of them.  If
so, it says more about clone attitudes, than it does about their
criticism.

    And, the program pays for 400 scholarships at about $8
million, or an average of about $20,000 per scholarship.  With
40,000 students, there are 100 times more students than student
athletes.  Do they ----- and moan about the 100 times more students
at $20,000 each that some of the same Ohio folks who are supporting
football, have to pay in taxes to support the other 39,600 students
at Ohio State.  Not hardly.  The lipsticked pigs -- no gender
intended, its a stock commercial comment -- get 100 times the
private money going to support athletics at Ohio State, in forced
state taxes and private tuition costs, but it doesn't occur to them
that their program is the pig, not the athletic program.  They
aren't satisfied, they want all the money.  And, the fact that it
is private money given to and produced by the athletic program, is
no barrier.  The pigs just want all the money, even though if they
tried to get the athletic money, it would cease to exists, and so
would public support to some degree, for their whole education
program.  The effect is synergistic, and you can't cut off one
hand, without having an effect upon the other.

    Next, they criticize: "rapid expansion", and we are all to
assume that because it is alleged to be "rapid", and involves
athletics, it has to be a bad thing.  If it was rapid for academic
facilities, it would be a good thing, but since it is athletics, it
must of necessity be a bad thing.  That is the university
indoctrinated clone politically correct position, for which the
article is meant to support, not just for Ohio State, but
nationwide for all universities.  Athletics is bad, and the
education folks, in their stridently defended independent opinions,
have to all genuflect to the clone position.

    The Ohio State football stadium was built in 1922 with a
capacity of 89,841 seating.  Says the article:

         "A 1926 photograph of a game against the University
         of Michigan shows 90,000 people packing the horseshoe."

In the Penn State game this year the article says they had 105,103
fans in the stands.  From 1922 to 2002, 80 years; and from 89,841
to 105,103 fans in the stands, doesn't shock my conscience as
consisting of "rapid expansion", at least not for football that
pays the bills.  The question that ought to be asked is: who were
the bright folks with foresight who determined to build the stadium
in the first instance, and who paid for it.  I suspect that the
answer is the education folks in 1922 didn't have to deal with the
politically correct liberal crowd gnawing on their leg, and I also
suspect it was the legislature of Ohio with the foresight to spend
tax dollars to build the stadium, not only for Ohio State, but for
the tax paying folks of Ohio.

    My 1997 NCAA records indicate that, thanks to their stadium
and their football program, Ohio State was 4th in the nation in
attendance with 564,167 for 6 games and an average of 94,028, while
K-State was 40th in the nation in attendance with 260,885 for 6
games and an average of 43,481 -- just to give you a comparison of
the magnitude of the programs.  Lets work the problem backwards.
$79,000,000 at least in income; divided by 6 games is $13,166,667
a game in income; divided by 94,028 is $140.00 per game per person.

    Query: if Ohio State tax payers who support 39,600 students
and the teachers teaching them, both directly through tuition
payments and/or indirectly through taxes; want for their
entertainment to spend $140 per game, and $840 per a season of 6
home games, to support another 400 student athletic scholarships;
why is it do you suspect it is any business of the politically
correct liberal crowd "on the campus outside of athletics".

    These folks are employees of the tax payers, they work for the
tax payers, "we bring them along for times in the afternoon when
there is nothing else to do except teach our kids, not to listen to
them talk".

    Says the article:

         "Very few faculty understand that the athletic program
         is completely self-supporting." (Emphasis added).

Are they dumb, and can't read or understand english, or are they
just prejudiced against athletics, because they themselves can't
walk straight, or chew gum at the same time, and are further just
pigs wanting all the money, both public and private?

    Says the article:

         "With 105,103 fans in the stands, an enormous flag is
         raised and, with almost-military precision, "The Best
         Damn Band in the Land" marches to form a script "Ohio."
         Then comes the kickoff."

These education folks probably don't focus upon the fact that
without a football team, they would not have "The Best Damn Band in
the Land", or any marching band at all.  Probably neither did
President Armstrong -- when he cut a deal with the K.U. Board of
Regents in 1986, to "suspend" our football program, in exchange for
three doctorate programs we had been trying to get without fruition
for 20 years -- focus upon the loss of our recognized and quality
marching band, and the effect upon the music school, or the
subsequent massive bleeding and loss of students, for which we have
still not recovered, or the effect upon revenues from the state,
given that we were then no longer perceived as a traditional
university.

    Complains the article:

         "In 1995-96, the football team cost $2.9 million and
         generated $13.2 million, according to the university's
         Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act report that year.
         By this year, the cost had tripled and the revenue
         had doubled." (Emphasis added).

Lets see if I understand the complaint.  The athletic department
football program made $10.3 million profit in 1995-96, and that was
bad enough, but the costs have tripled by this year, $8.7 million,
and the revenue only doubled, $26.4 million.  Accordingly, the
football program profit by this year, i.e. last years numbers, is
$17.7 million.  If a $10.3 million profit is bad, then a $17.7
million profit is even worse, as the costs tripled but the revenue
only doubled.  Quod Non Fuit Negatum.  And, these articles are
written for the folks who are teaching our kids how to reason.


    Complains the article:

         "Debt service on Ohio Stadium, the Schottenstein Center,
         and other projects in the complex will total a cool $20
         million this year." (Emphasis added).

So what.  The athletic program made a profit and even paid the
university $12.5 million for all the costs and 400 scholarships.
And, it is precisely the foresight of the folks at the university
and the state in 1922, in building the football facility in the
first instance, that today allows for the athletic program last
year to produce $79 million in income, and operate at a profit.

    Further, this year, Ohio State is playing Miami in the Fiesta
Bowl for the National Championship.  That game itself will pay Ohio
State in excess of $12 million.  And, Miami with an enrollment of
about 6,000 who will also be paid $12 million plus, will be trying
to win its sixth national championship.  If Miami with an
enrollment of 6,000 can win five national championships and be
playing for a sixth; it is without question possible for Wichita
State to have at least a run of the mill $3.5 million football
program and compete in the middle of the WAC.  It is just a matter
of thinking through the problems and resolving the issues, which
problems do not take an engineering degree to solve.

    Complains the article:

         "The thing that still sticks in the craw of most faculty
         is the amount of money that went into facilities,"
         (Emphasis added).

So what.  It's not their money.  Admits the article:

         "We have these rabid football fans who fill the stadium
         and give us money...They totally support the program.
         They pay for tickets.  They join the Buckeye Club.  And
         that's allowed us to do all this."....
         "The Buckeyes also generate enough income to service the
         debt on the many building they have opened over the last
         few years -- debt that would stagger almost all other
         athletic departments." (Emphasis added).

    As to "Academics Second", criticizes the article:

         "The football team's graduation rate has been in the
         doldrums for the past several years:  Thirty-six percent
         of players who entered Ohio State from 1992 to 1996
         earned degrees within six years."

This seems like a valid criticism, but can it be stated in a
vacuum?  When I entered Wichita University in 1959, there were 460
plus freshman students enrolled in engineering as I recall.  23 of
us graduated in engineering.  That is a success ratio of 5 percent.
If 36 percent graduation rate is an argument for dropping football
at Ohio State, apparently a 5 percent graduation rate is an even
better argument for dropping engineering at WSU.  And if not, why
not?  And, it should be admitted by the faculty that even folks who
did not graduate, at least obtain some benefit of their teachings,
and will be better for it, and better for society, in the course of
their lives.  In short, graduation is not the only measure of
success.  When I was in engineering school at WSU, I had three
courses for my masters degree that were doctorate level courses,
elasticity, plates & shells, and elastic stability, but I didn't
know that they were doctorate level courses until many years later
dealing with my Dr. expert witnesses.  I subsequently asked one of
my engineering professors, who confirmed they were doctorate level
courses and that they were taught at the master degree level
because we didn't have a doctorate program at that time, and that
was what the professors were interested in teaching, so we got the
courses for masters degree credit.  I further suspect that my
engineering professors did not consider a 5 percent graduation rate
a failure, but rather an indication of the quality of the
engineering mind they were turning out, and unleashing upon the
engineering world, all of which effected the reputation of the
school as being one of the best aeronautical engineering schools in
the country.  And, all of my professors, both undergraduate
engineering and graduate engineering, had doctorate degrees in
engineering.

    A psychology professor complains:

         "They come here, and are spending an enormous amount of
         time on their sport, I think this is a problem."

When I was in engineering school, I spent "an enormous amount of
time" on engineering studies.  It's a choice we all make in the
process of determining our lives.  But liberals believe they have
a corner on the market of the right to instruct everyone else as to
their priorities and what it is they should do with their lives.
This is America, and we all get to make our own choices, other than
paying government taxes.  The truth is these academic types just
want to criticize, with whatever they think sounds good on its
face.
    I would like to take some of these university professor
elitist who are convinced of their infinite wisdom on all subjects
based upon their narrow knowledge of the subject they teach; out on
survival in the mountains in the Los Pinos - Conejos river country
in southern Colorado for a week.  Along about sunset the first
night they would suddenly be aware that they know very little about
the real world and would be highly concerned about their survival
till morning.  I doubt they could even start a fire without a blow
torch or a can of gasoline and a box of matches.  And, 10 miles
from nowhere, they would not have the physical stamina to reach
civilization.  And it is without doubt they could not catch a trout
or otherwise feed themselves.  But they only think they know
everything and have infinite wisdom, because they are narrowly
focused on what they do, and just don't know anything else in the
world exists.

    The article is further replete with opportunities to pull down
the shorts of this politically correct instructive, and expose it
for the bias and prejudice it exhibits, but I will stop here as I
have more than made the point and this letter has become much
longer than what I had in mind to accomplish, perhaps to the point
of defending itself from the possibility that it will be read with
focus.  It is however, equal in length to the article I was
provided, and I have only touched on the more egregious points.

    In the hope you will not let the article effect your judgment
as to whether or not we can resolve our student loss problem and
become a traditional university again, I am

                                  As always, with Kind regards,

 

                                  Fred Marrs
  
  

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