November 7, 2006

by Fred Marrs 7. November 2006 19:23

TO: The Wichita Eagle - Re: Response to Nov. 7th Bob Lutz’s Bill Snyder - Here’s Who Can Revive Shocker Football Opinion Article.

 

FROM: Shocker Black & Golds

 

Date: 7 NOV. ‘06:BARE BONES

 

•So Bill Snyder thinks football at WSU is, well, “It’s a fantastic idea”. Us poor rabble Black & Golds think so too. THANK YOU BILL SNYDER!

 

•And Mr. Snyder is willing to say: “[h]ow much I would respect the people who would attempt to do that.” Coming from a man of such high respect, who rebuilt a team essentially from ground zero, having previously won one game in 10 years in the then Big 8 Conference, it is indeed truly a high complement. THANK YOU AGAIN COACH SNYDER!

 

•The Black & Golds would love to have coach Snyder’s direction and involvement just for his wisdom, expertise, and advice in rebuilding a program, even if he no longer wanted to coach.

 

•What a great success and compliment, that coach Snyder would even be interested in WSU’s problems. But then Lutz uses the Eagle’s opportunity for optimism, as an occasion to be pessimistic and subjectively attack Marrs as the problem, as not being more “sensible” and “cooperative” (apparently with the Eagle). Lutz carps about Marrs’ response to the KU scribblers designated assassin Suellentrop article, that was not just about football, but was clearly meant to be and was a stalked attempt to personally attack not a public figure, but simply a common citizen, albeit rabble; for having the audacity to stand up and respond to the drive-by scribblers’ personal attack.

 

•They labor under a vacuum of principle, which lack of concern for principle is amazing. They can dish out criticism of folks disagreeing with them, as if it were some kind of God given right, but they can’t take it. And they criticize, devoid of any reasoned analysis of the substantive facts we presented, with the Eagle’s money, 55 gallon barrels of ink, and 1000 times more circulation than us poor folks under their personal subjective drive-by attack.

 

•They can criticize in the first instance, but they squeal and pretend they are innocently aggrieved, when confronted with a substantive response sculptured and based upon the facts they can not deny, and will not consider, as they can not argue their subjective case against the documented facts, and so must rely upon personal attacks. It’s just not fair you see, that we should stand up and defend our self against their scolding scurrilous personal attack.

 

•Why you should exhibit that you are so paranoid over comments submitted to over a 1000 times less circulation, is beyond reasoned concern and any normal sense of fairness. Maybe, as your “bunch of us in the office” are sitting around contemplating your self perceived eminence, you just naturally become angry and bitter that someone would consider your work product of such quality as deserving of your being exposed as scribblers. Do you truly view it as some threat to your monopoly and control of the Eagle’s money, machinery, and circulation?

 

•As we said in our response: “Meet Paul Suellentrop, designated assassin of the drive-by KU scribblers at the Eagle. So there you have it. The Eagle has prattled, and we common rabble should all just go away and let the Eagle carry president Begg’s water for him, and listen to the Eagle’s knee jerk KU scribblers rule on the issue, contra to the best interests of the community and our university; just like the Eagle, on the wrong side of history, editorially supported the KU Controlled Board of Regents attempt to tear down Cessna Stadium in 1995.”...

 

(Note: The Eagle in the first instance, at the admitted request of president Armstrong, also agreed and was only too happy to editorially support Armstrong’s subsequent announcement of the decision [truly, his quid pro quo agreement with the KU controlled Board of Regents] to suspend football.)

 

“Suellentrop no more than subjectively assassinates, intentionally avoiding any specific factual example of alleged wrongdoing, for the reason that none exist, and he can’t factually support his subjective argument. But then, what can you expect from a drive-by scribbler.

 

“Perhaps the major emphasis for the personal assassination attempt, is the use of the word “scribblers”. It’s a sharp knife in their ribs. It gravels them. It eats at their soul.”

 

•   And by the way, pardon us if we question your postured concern for the interests of WSU, as we readily recall your annual week before the NCAA College World Series team selections, bagging on our baseball team, and contending it is not good enough and should not be selected for the tournament. But we note you don’t mind the free tickets from your alma mater, and sitting high up in the media booth. It’s just that you aren’t treated and catered to like royalty as you are when you go to KU to watch football games.

 

•   But don’t go getting your scribblers pen heated up with moral indignation against us Black & Golds, it just gravels us that notwithstanding, you get free tickets. The rumor in Eck Stadium is that nobody has ever really liked what you scribble anyway, except maybe your fellow sit in the group scribblers, and even they have never expressly been genuinely enthusiastic about it that we know of. When someone says: “Have you read the latest WSU bagging by Lutz”, the answer is usually: “No, I don’t pay any attention to what he writes”, or: ”No, I don’t take the Eagle.”

 

•   We have now responded to the Eagle’s Brent Wistrom and Kirk Seminoff; Randy Scholfield; Paul Suellentrop; and now it’s Bob Lutz’s turn, amongst the group sitting around in the office, to subjectively attack. We intend to defend ourselves, even to a 1000 times less circulation, and we stand on the substantive facts stated and underlying each of the arguments we have presented. We know it gravels your ego. But get used to our factual criticism, just as we have to put up with your subjective criticism. We are reasonable, as exhibited by our position papers you can’t substantively respond to, but we don’t intend to be “more cooperative” with your exhibited lack of substance and subjective drive-by attacks, while you preen yourself and focus on your unbridled ego’s as to your own opinions; existing only at the sufferance of the Eagle and the Eagle’s money, machinery, and dissipating circulation, not on the factual or reasoned merit of your presentations. We would welcome a reasoned debate, but we are more than willing to respond to your present unmeritorious subjective attacks.

 

•   That sound of silence at WSU that you hear; this “strange feeling that something is missing at Wichita State”; “Because something is missing. That’s undeniable”; that you so correctly identify but can’t quite put your finger on; is not only the lack of fall football, music school students in the marching band, homecoming parades, fraternities and sororities related activities, the demise of the number of fraternities and sororities, the lack of being a traditional university, etc.; but the cause of not being a traditional university – the lack of a football team – results in the inability to attract traditional students. So the sound of silence you hear, that something that’s missing, is the loss now of some 9,000 students vis-a-vis our position with K-State of 442 less students and growing in 1986, when the KU controlled Board of Regents hired president Wefald and charged him with stopping the precipitous bleeding of students and to emphasis football, while at the same time suspending football at WSU. THANK YOU BOB LUTZ! There may be some hope for you yet.

 

 

 

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